It does not go through the USB and therefore Rekordbox cannot record the mic with a DDJ-400, a DDJ-FLX6, or a DDJ-SB3. How to record the microphone with a Pioneer DDJ-400, DDJ-SB3, or DDJ-FLX6? As you can’t record the microphone on Rekordbox with a DDJ-400, the only way around is to plug the controller RCAs output with your computer line in. Mar 28, 2020 Pioneer DDJ-1000 (Rekordbox DJ) The Pioneer DDJ-1000 is my pick for best DJ controller over $1000. It’s a great choice for Rekordbox users (plus there’s a Serato version), providing loads of visual feedback thanks to the high-res screens located in the middle of its large jog wheels.
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Mcx8000 Rekordbox Vs
Hi im wondering if anyone has used both the pioneer xdj rx and denon mcx 8000 and can tell me the pros and cons and which one would make a better choice , I mostly am interested in them as a stand alone controller and not planning on using them with a computer im a bit concerned about hearing the screens on the denon freeze up and denon seems to be concentrating on a different software for the prime players ( I may be wrong) I havent heard anything bad about the pioneers yet and the denon seems to be a more functional mixer but I’m most concerned with reliability , what do you guys think ?
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If your goal is to play stand alone I’d recommend the Pioneer XDJ-RX. It is a primarily stand alone unit but you can also use it as a controller and the full Rekordbox licence is included since end of last year. The effects are similar as to Pioneer’s standard layout with 4 color effects and, I think from memory, 8 beat effects. If you plan on using your music in clubs where there already is Pioneer gear available, you can bring your USB media and get on it.
I don’t know anyone who has the Denon MCX8000 but according to Denon and it’s quite obvious when see how it’s presented, it’s primarily a Serato controller with stand alone capabilities. The mixer part is only better in that it is a 4 channel mixer. The effects are limited to 3/player in stand alone mode +filter. When used as controller it comes to life with all the choices the software has to offer.
Unfortunately Denon seems to develop Engine and Engine Prime as two different software’s and for the MCX8000 it is the older Engine that will continue to be the software.
When it comes to known problems with the units, the freezing of the screens on the Denon has been described by to many to be ignored, but it seems like it’s either you got the problem or not. The RX doesn’t have any stability issues as far as I know. I have several colleagues who use it, and they love the RX, sometimes to a point where they prefer it over the full NXS/NXS2 setup, which I don’t really understand 😉 .
It also comes down to which echo system you want to involve yourself with. You will have to use either Engine or Rekordbox to fully utilize any of the players and it’s important you feel at home and that you get what you need from the software to play your way. They are both free to download and use so if you haven’t done so yet, give’em a run. That will help you decide.
Good luck and have fun with which ever one you choose 🙂 .
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I own a MCX8000. Never had the screens freeze. IF the FX are what matters, definitely go with the pioneer. For the same money you get a 4 channels on the Denon, it has built in DVS support, has a rugged metal chassis vs the plastic of the pioneer, 8 performance pads/hot cues vs 4, and a second screen for less money. The Denon was also awarded the title of Ultimate DJ controller while the Pioneer only has a Innovative product award that I am aware of.
Also, Denon has clearly stated that the MCX8000 will get Engine Primer upgrade as it is their flagship controller.
Personally I find Pioneer to be very slow to innovate and overpriced where as Denon is pushing the market in new directions and giving a lot of value for the cost the consumer is paying. I use my MCX as my workhorse for gigs and often as a mixer for CDJ or turntable setups as carrying less gear is always a plus. I think the current Engine software and Rekordbox are both pretty lackluster. The primer version of Engine looks to be a major step up. I think your decision should come down to
FX- Pioneer clear winner as of now but updates could change that
Durability- Denon kills it in this category. All metal chassis vs plastic.
Value- Again, Denon is a clear winner with 4 channels, DVS ability (through Serato), and a second screen. Cheaper by average of 150 dollars and most places are also offering coffins for the same price as list.
Software – No clear winner here as of now. Though with Denon slated to release Primer gear soon I think the Denon will edge out the Pioneer in this category.
Support- Dont know Pioneers plans to update and add more features but I do know Denon is committed to keeping the MCX as the center piece of its controller line currently so will be adding features. I know Pioneer tends to not push out much new features and has stared a focus on PA gear so its a crap shoot on whether updating their controller line will be a priority.Let me throw in my 3 cents as usual here.
If you are a mobile DJ, I think the microphone implementation on the Denon is better than the Pioneer version (although granted the RX has better mic option than many of it’s siblings). Separate EQ per mic, echo and easy push buttons for talk-over (ducking), mic on/off and said echo are preferable imho to the tiny 3-position switch on the Pioneer.
The 4-channel option has been mentioned, with the added 4-deck option of the 8000 should you choose to use software after all.
Software. I’d have to say that RekordBox IS currently the better option. That said, the new Prime version is about to be released and is rumored to support saving your sets in an 8000-compatible version (bit like you can choose to save for CDJ or XDJ in RekordBox). What I have seen from Prime (on a PC/Mac) seems to be pretty advanced. It has also been in extensive beta-testing by some of the biggest names in the industry (including but not limited to Paul Oakenfold, Laid Back Luke and Oliver Heldens). So, too early to call I think.
Superior sound card. This could cause a bit of a discussion, but general consensus among the people I have talked to (DJs and sound engineers) is that the Denon sounds better. This being a rather personal thing, trust your ears is the thing here.
The RX allows you to record to one of the USB ports, a function absent on the 8000
The 8000 has an extra USB port to connect something like an external HD without needing an USB hub.
All in all, unless you are totally hung up on loads of FX and especially if you are a mobile DJ, my money would be (and actually is) on the 8000 which is currently replacing my DDJ-SX
If your goal is standalone, and you are making your purchase in the very near future – Pioneer wins this battle as Rekordbox on the RX is more stable than the current implementation of Engine on the 8000.
But as others have said, that is all about to get a shake up as Denon’s software ecosystem is getting an overhaul (apparently as soon as next week), and that overhaul is planned to roll over to the 8000 in the coming months.
From a hardware perspective – Pioneer has better effects implementation on standalone, but Denon has better performance pads (8 vs 4, and proper rubber performance/drum pads vs hard click buttons).
So, if you need something in the next few weeks, the Pioneer wins. If you can hold off a few weeks, who wins isn’t clear yet.
Hope that helps.
Well I am biased, I have the MCX8000 and love this thing so much…
Rather wait till the new version of Engine for the 8000 is released, then make your choice.
The current version of Engine sucks! You can’t manually adjust the beatgrid, which means that if the software doesn’t analyze the tracks right (which does happen), the auto loops aren’t accurate (standalone mode). The FX in standalone are very basic, echo (doesn’t quite operate the way you’d expect), phaser (very cheesy sounding) & noise (white noise-I like the most). They’re post-fader but NOT post x-fader (Say What!!). But at least we do have some fx, the filters on each channel are superb!! As is the overall sound quality. As a standalone media player it is definitely not bad. I can easily do a set on it – no problem, however song searching honestly is a bit painful. As a SDJ controller it’s a Boss!! Now… problems I’ve had with the 8000. My first unit had an issue with the usb hub on the rear which caused the screens to freeze whenever I plugged anything into it. It was swopped out under warranty, the new unit’s rear hub works fine but then I started getting random screen freezes. This has been the biggest headache for me. Denon’s forum staff honestly didn’t have a clue & blamed files, memory sticks & laptops, but as DjPeter said ‘it has been described by too many to be ignored’. Now though, it does seem like we finally have a solution!! (well I have anyway). It was suggested by a forum member to reduce the display brightness from 100% to 90%. This has worked for me & a couple of others that have tried it (touch wood). Since reducing the brightness I haven’t had a single screen freeze & for the first time, I actually feel totally confident with it. I’ve had my 8000 for over a year now & use it every single weekend (+-8hrs, Fri & Sat) and other than the screen issue (which is now resolved) it has been rock solid! I now absolutely love it!!The screen freezing issues now seem to be solved for many by setting the screen illumination to 90 instead of 100% and to use single dot LED ring instead of full on minus one dot (my preferred setting anyway LOL).
The software is about to released in less that 1 1/2 day (see Denon site for countdown). It does not mention what if any MCX8000 support there is, but it is generally assumed that there will only be one version of Engine, so this one should already give you an idea of the features (there is a good promo vid out on it as well).
As for the Quad you’d be paying for CD-players (who still needs those!?). Also I don’t think there is anything RekordBox/Engine like for the Numarks. So you’d be working with folder/file only tracks, meaning you need a lot of prepping. And still have to do with no playlists, no cue points or beatgrids for example. Very meager screens.
Not something I’d recommend based on your OP.
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